As the numerous responses to my first post show, this is one of the most common and controversial questions asked about DMOZ.
To answer this question, it is important to consider what DMOZ isn't.
DMOZ is not set up as a listing service for site owners. Site submissions are only one source for finding quality sites to add to the directory. Some editors choose to review submissions while other editors might prefer to (at first) find sites on their own through search engines, as links from related sites, in newspapers, on television, on highway billboards, etc. So...there are no guarantees that once you submit your site it will be reviewed within a specific amount of time.
There are also a number of practical reasons it can take a while for a site to get listed in DMOZ:
The site is submitted to an incorrect category. Many sites are submitted to categories that are either too broad, too narrow, or unrelated to the content of the site being submitted. Most of the time, incorrectly submitted sites are sent to the appropriate category for review, but that will usually increase the amount of time that a site will ultimately wait for review. Submitting your site to the single most specific category relative to your site's content will significantly improve your chances of getting your site reviewed.
The site is submitted to the wrong language section of the directory. For example, non-English sites are frequently submitted to the English-language section of the directory. As with sites submitted to the wrong category, editors have to redirect these sites to the correct language, which can increase the amount of time that they will await review.
The submitted site does not meet submission or editorial guidelines for inclusion. Quite often people submit sites that are incomplete, don't contain enough content, or consist primarily of syndicated or mirrored content. Uniqueness of content is one of the most important factors editors consider when reviewing a site for inclusion.
The category has a backlog of submissions. This can result when the popularity of the topic, which may attract large numbers of both listable and unlistable sites, doesn't match the interests of active or prospective editors. Submitting to one of these categories may mean a longer wait. (That doesn't mean you should submit your site to the wrong category just because you think it doesn't have a backlog – deliberately submitting your site to the wrong category is never a good choice.)
URBAN LEGENDS ( i.e. popular & fictional reasons ) as to why a site does not gain acceptance into
The category editor is corrupt and/or a competitor is keeping the site from being listed. DMOZ regularly receives allegations of corruption and abuse through its public abuse reporting system. Each report is thoroughly investigated and crosschecked. Most of these claims turn out to be baseless. In the rare case where there may be some truth to the allegation, the matter is dealt with immediately.
No one is monitoring the category. While a few categories in DMOZ may not have a listed editor that doesn't mean there's no one minding the store. All editors listed higher in a category's hierarchy can and do edit subcategories. In addition, many editors have permissions to edit anywhere in the directory.
I'm certain there will be no shortage of comments to this post, but please consider the topics listed above and re-check your submission application again.
And if/when you do submit, please...please....please avoid any claims/jokes/sarcasm of offering money to get accepted into DMOZ. Editors apply zero sense of humor to these types of statements and it is a sure fire way to ensure your site does not gain entry. Ever.
One of my future posts will include best practice recommendations for suggesting sites to editors.
Cheers.
Bob Keating
Managing Editor, DMOZ Staff


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201. There is no doubt in my mind that DMOZ is completely corrupt. I have submitted various sites over the years to appropriate categories - all within submission guidelines and none have ever been accepted.
Yet I continue to see my direct competitors maintain listings (many times more than 1) and have to wonder how they stay in while I stay out.
A few years ago one of my sites being declined even became hotly debated at webmasterworld for awhile. Every member who looked at the site (dozens pm'd me for the url) agreed that the site should have been included. The only 2 dissenters were self proclaimed editors and their high and mighty posts on the subject defending the DMOZ decision to keep the site out resonated with bad attitude and egotistical extremism.
Just for fun I recently submitted a .gov site that wasn't listed in the directory. Just to see what your 'editors' would do with it and - guess what? Still not there.
I have applied to become an editor twice - each time meeting the guidelines and both times my application was denied for no reason. So please don't suggest I become an editor to enact change from within.
At best DMOZ has become an exclusive club that works hard to keep insiders in and outsiders out. At worst it has become a den of internet iniquity to rival any organized crime syndicate.
If you, as Managing Editor, really believe that your editors are honest, hardworking volunteers making a sacrifice for the internet community then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
If you ever decide to remake the DMOZ into what it once was, the first step is admitting you have a problem and the 2nd step would be integrating total transparency, and an honest appeals process into the system.
Your posts defending DMOZ's honor are laughable. The fact that you post them tells me that you know there are problems. However, your defenses reek of ignorance bordering on complicity.
If you continue to run DMOZ without any changes in policy, then one can only believe that your are the Kingpin in charge of the corruption.
Posted at 8:14PM on Oct 24th 2007 by mb
202. PS: Wasn't there an DMOZ editorship for sale on ebay a while ago for 5K?
Guess whoever bought it just really wanted to do some good and had a compelling need to volunteer his time as a good 'netizen.
Posted at 8:20PM on Oct 24th 2007 by mb
203. I was looking at an editors profile the other day, he had his affilitions listed, and one of the sites he is affiliated with has over 600 listings - this is for a site that republishes content in the public domain for adsense clicks.
If a site with one page of public domain content really needs to be listed in a category, why not at least list a page that does not make money from adsense?
I am an editor myself and I ask from time to time about quality sites that are not allowed in and about situations like the one above and I am always told that no changes will be made.
I can plainly see that corruption exists, and like someone mentioned above, the first step to removing it is admitting that it exists.
Come on DMOZ! It's not too late, but it will be soon, webmasters are turning away one by one, and at an increasing rate. If you lose the webmasters, you lose everything.
Posted at 9:18PM on Oct 24th 2007 by marc
204. @marc: I don't think anyone has claimed that abuse doesn't exist, though it's certainly not as widespread as some people would suggest, and the meta editors do their best to keep it to a minimum and remove abusive editors.
If you have evidence of wrong-doing please submit an internal abuse report (link on your dashboard) with the details, and it will be investigated by one or more meta editors. Note though, that it's not necessarily inappropriate for a site to have 600 listings if it has good content (though you seem to think that this isn't the case here), and even if it is deemed inappropriate, it may not have been the editor in question that added any/all of those listings. It may also be that the listings you're talking about were added to the directory before the adsense came along.
I'm not sure what you mean about 'quality sites' not being allowed in. Our inclusion criteria at http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html are public, and I think that the only reasons for banning an otherwise listable site would be excessive suggestions or bribe attempts by the owner. If you know of an editor unfairly denying listable sites, please contact a meta or submit an abuse report.
Posted at 3:49PM on Oct 27th 2007 by chaos127
205. I posted my site over a month ago (www.innroad.com) and have not heard anything. I was about to assume that something went wrong, but it seems I should just wait? Can anyone suggest an appropriate waiting period. Also, a better way to communicate to "someone" than resubmitting the site, since this seems to hurt more than help from what I gather from other comments. Thanks.
Posted at 7:27PM on Oct 30th 2007 by Murat
206. http://chinaimportexport.wetpaint.com
Posted at 10:51PM on Nov 2nd 2007 by Lin
207. Is there a way to find out if I have already suggested my URL.
The problem is I do not remember if I did. Can i re suggest to just make sure?
Posted at 10:03AM on Nov 10th 2007 by Kann
208. I tried to list my website www.contactphotographer.co.uk and found it virtually impossible to do so. Just now i clicked on suggest a url and there was a error message. Its been a very frustrating experience so far.
Posted at 10:25AM on Nov 19th 2007 by Ganiyu
209. Our site was listed for many many years, and after big crash at DMOZ our site disappeared. I submitted to the same category, already 6 times in last year or so, I get no response, and site is not getting listed. At the bottom of the page, I see that there are no editor for this page. So, don't really know what to do. Tried to email to support, but also never got any response. So, looks like nobody cares at DMOZ anymore.
And I agree with many here, who say that there are tons of outdated links, which don't really work, and there is no way to report that.
Posted at 7:17PM on Nov 12th 2007 by Dmitri
210. Would like to know two things..
1) What do I do to become an editor for a certain area? I tried about 6 months ago and was turned down, is it only because of the area I'm looking into?
2) I have listed my site two or three times, still not on your system, what do you do next? You say I can't re-list or my listing will be dropped to the bottom? Any Help?
Thanks for your time
Don
Posted at 11:03AM on Nov 13th 2007 by Don House
211. Hey all!
For a loooong time some genius categorized our site (www.fotki.com) on dmoz as a Lithuanian site (does it look Lithuanian to anyone???) - Now, we are in LITHUANIA category on Alexa: whatever we begged of Alexa - they told us they don't care and they use dmoz - we've tried several times to get dmoz to categorize Fotki correctly - we are NOT A LITHUANIAN SITE.
Now, who do we have to beg, bribe, tame, maim, suck up to in order to bring Fotki.com record up to date??????
Thank you very much in advance for your help
(a VERY frustrated person)
Posted at 5:56PM on Nov 13th 2007 by Igor shoifot
212. I submitted my site about two months ago. I am sure that the site was submitted to the right category and I have been accepted at numerous search engines and directories. How do I know whether my site has been rejected or just has not been reviewed as yet.
Posted at 8:40PM on Nov 14th 2007 by emmlee
213. Yeah. It happened to me also. When I wanted to submit my site http://www.dairyforall.com to the dmoz directory, I did not receive any reply at all. But some of my friends told me to resubmit it to the directory, which I promptly did. As per the instruction given in the dmoz contact form, I had even written a polite letter to the editor for that particular category requesting to consider including my site but still I have heard nothing. God only knows what is the "perfect eligibility" criteria to be included in the dmoz.
Posted at 8:05AM on Nov 16th 2007 by K.Thenmozhi
214. dear dmoz.org.
Everything is actually clear and evident.Just one question, if you permit me: Why you guys, or any from your editorial stuff don't write replies on the provided email either the listing was addead, rejected or is currently pending? Or, is it so hard to create a kind of checking system as to check the status of the site?! I guess it's pretty easy to create guys. Thank you for your attention and good luck in future.
Posted at 9:40AM on Nov 16th 2007 by green petterson
215. I am another frustrated party. I submitted my site months ago, but it seems to not have been listed. It also says in the instructions not to make multiple submissions. So, what's the rub? How long do I have to wait to see if I qualify or not? This whole thing is extraordinarily frustrating.
Posted at 1:38AM on Nov 19th 2007 by Erik
216. I have successfully listed my website http://www.contactphotographer.co.uk however how does one find out if it's live or not?
Posted at 10:31AM on Nov 19th 2007 by ganiyu
217. DMOZ needs to think of websites submitted as customers and at least provide the courtesy of explaining why a site has not been included in the directory. To say our editors discestion is final does not help the community to produce good quality websites for listing.
I recognise that the editors work is voluntary but having submitted my site approx three times over three years and still no action/reply I do not know what to do. Has it been reviewed? Has it been lost in the crash? Has anyone even seen my submission? Should I try each year?
If sites have been reviewed and failed to make the grade then we should be told what we need to put it right so our websites can be included.
I almost thought about applying to be an editor so I could find out what I need to do to get a listing in DMOZ.
Welcome comments on why DMOZ cannot acknowledge submissions and comments on the review result. Actually would welcome comments from anyone who could tell me why DMOZ would not list my site.
Posted at 11:55AM on Nov 24th 2007 by Peter Ramsden
218. I've tried submitting my site http://www.alansharpbarker.com to DMOZ 4 different times and have been very careful to make sure I have followed all the guidelines. It has never been accepted.
Posted at 11:26AM on Nov 27th 2007 by Alan Barker
219. Thanks Bob,
This blog is a nice way for us to voice our opinions and ask questions. I think this is a much needed resource.
I would like to suggest a way for us to view the state of our submissions. I am a wedding photographer. I initially submitted the url for my business about 2 years ago. I never got accepted and i was never informed as to why. It is a legitimate site and it was listed in the correct category. I have resubmitted about 2 months ago and still haven't made it. It is a little frustrating.
I understand that you have few editors and many submissions but there must be a better way to keep "customers" happy.
Thanks
Posted at 12:40PM on Nov 27th 2007 by Andy
220. I used to have my site listed in the correct category and was in there for years. Some 6 months ago we misteriously dissapeared without warning. Our site has no duplicate content, no broken links and is 7 years old and updated on a daily basis... all I can say is that when our site dissapeared a couple of our competitors sites suddenly appeared. I have tried re-submitting the site, I have also applied to become an editor. All to no avail, I have sent query emails and am pulling my hair out - I would just LOVE someone to give me a fair answer WHY my site has been penalised for NO reason, all I can imagine is a competitor is an editor and deliberately removed my site - investigate please as it NEVER gets investigated if I complain through the proper channels... just an answer or reinclusion would be good... ever hopefull - simon, www.dvd-and-media.com
Posted at 11:13AM on Dec 3rd 2007 by Simon Young