As the numerous responses to my first post show, this is one of the most common and controversial questions asked about DMOZ.
To answer this question, it is important to consider what DMOZ isn't.
DMOZ is not set up as a listing service for site owners. Site submissions are only one source for finding quality sites to add to the directory. Some editors choose to review submissions while other editors might prefer to (at first) find sites on their own through search engines, as links from related sites, in newspapers, on television, on highway billboards, etc. So...there are no guarantees that once you submit your site it will be reviewed within a specific amount of time.
There are also a number of practical reasons it can take a while for a site to get listed in DMOZ:
The site is submitted to an incorrect category. Many sites are submitted to categories that are either too broad, too narrow, or unrelated to the content of the site being submitted. Most of the time, incorrectly submitted sites are sent to the appropriate category for review, but that will usually increase the amount of time that a site will ultimately wait for review. Submitting your site to the single most specific category relative to your site's content will significantly improve your chances of getting your site reviewed.
The site is submitted to the wrong language section of the directory. For example, non-English sites are frequently submitted to the English-language section of the directory. As with sites submitted to the wrong category, editors have to redirect these sites to the correct language, which can increase the amount of time that they will await review.
The submitted site does not meet submission or editorial guidelines for inclusion. Quite often people submit sites that are incomplete, don't contain enough content, or consist primarily of syndicated or mirrored content. Uniqueness of content is one of the most important factors editors consider when reviewing a site for inclusion.
The category has a backlog of submissions. This can result when the popularity of the topic, which may attract large numbers of both listable and unlistable sites, doesn't match the interests of active or prospective editors. Submitting to one of these categories may mean a longer wait. (That doesn't mean you should submit your site to the wrong category just because you think it doesn't have a backlog – deliberately submitting your site to the wrong category is never a good choice.)
URBAN LEGENDS ( i.e. popular & fictional reasons ) as to why a site does not gain acceptance into
The category editor is corrupt and/or a competitor is keeping the site from being listed. DMOZ regularly receives allegations of corruption and abuse through its public abuse reporting system. Each report is thoroughly investigated and crosschecked. Most of these claims turn out to be baseless. In the rare case where there may be some truth to the allegation, the matter is dealt with immediately.
No one is monitoring the category. While a few categories in DMOZ may not have a listed editor that doesn't mean there's no one minding the store. All editors listed higher in a category's hierarchy can and do edit subcategories. In addition, many editors have permissions to edit anywhere in the directory.
I'm certain there will be no shortage of comments to this post, but please consider the topics listed above and re-check your submission application again.
And if/when you do submit, please...please....please avoid any claims/jokes/sarcasm of offering money to get accepted into DMOZ. Editors apply zero sense of humor to these types of statements and it is a sure fire way to ensure your site does not gain entry. Ever.
One of my future posts will include best practice recommendations for suggesting sites to editors.
Cheers.
Bob Keating
Managing Editor, DMOZ Staff


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21. @chubacabra Actually search engines rank sites based on relevance not cost.
Posted at 6:36PM on Oct 10th 2007 by marc
22. Thank you for this information. I have submitted my site ~ 1 month ago. I'm having difficulty figuring out how to know what the status is of my submission. I followed all of the guidelines very carefully. Please advise. Thank you again. JPWK
Posted at 8:27AM on Oct 11th 2007 by jennica
23. I am commenting here because I am having a technical difficulty in adding a URL to:
http://www.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/add.cgi?where=Regional/Europe/United_Kingdom/Business_and_Economy/Shopping/Gifts/Personalised/Stationery
and I can't see anywhere on the site to contact someone for HELP! on this...maybe my not seeing, maybe it's not there!
Problem is, when I type in what I see for the "captcha" code it refuses me. Every time! And when I follow the instructions to refresh the screen and try again, it wipes out my carefully-constructed 20-30 word description and I have to try again!
Can somebody please help me, or tell me who I can contact for help. Thank you.
Posted at 1:08PM on Oct 11th 2007 by Philip Caplan
24. Hi , i sugest the IIL.BE , a free redirection service but was never added , IIL.BE is better than many other redirection services and WITHOUT ANY ADS ! the website is in english i don't understand why is not listed ?i sugest it to the right category , what can be so wrong with IIL.BE to not be listed to Dmoz ?
Posted at 12:09PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Kamil
25. to visit IIL.BE see here please : http://iil.be
Posted at 12:13PM on Oct 12th 2007 by Kamil
26. More FUD from DMOZ. Don't call truths urban legends.
Who's this then? www.corruptdmozeditor.com
Who tried to extort Shoemoney? http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/26/dmoz-extortion/
Who deleted this thread from WebProWorld? http://www.blogherald.com/2006/08/26/corrupt-dmoz-editors/
"And if/when you do submit, please...please....please avoid any claims/jokes/sarcasm of offering money to get accepted into DMOZ."
And if/when you do start a DMOZ blog, please...please....please avoid any claims/jokes/sarcasm of the submission system being legit and unmonetized.
Posted at 11:42AM on Oct 13th 2007 by corey
27. Corey. Thanks for stopping by. Let's discuss these one at a time.
CorruptDMOZeditor.com is fiction, satire, and more or less for giggles. Like Fake Steve Jobs. Probably worth mentioning it hasn't been updated since March of 2006.
"Who tried to extort Shoemoney?"
Your guess is as good as ours. This "respected" and self described liar has yet to show any proof. Zero. Zip. Nada. Maybe some 7th grader from Norway, maybe it was you...but not anyone proven to be an editor.
"Submission system is legit"
It is. 100% free. I can provide a link : )
So in summation....
corruptdmozeditor = fiction
Shoemoney = fiction
Submission system is legit = fact
Posted at 10:50AM on Oct 14th 2007 by bbqgrant
28. re post#10
I'd like to comment your post and clarify some points.
Out of your 3 examples you provided two of them are already listed and only one is not - and there is a reason for that: there is still no relevant category for it yet.
Also note that reading this post, it appears that there were some reasons for not approving your application
essentialy concerning ODP's structure and goals. Also, as a World/Bulgarian editor, I was a bit sad to read that you haven't said a single kind word about our work.
For your next applicaton (a new editor is always welcome to help us) let me humbly suggest you to read our guidelines, it really helps a lot to increase your chances of being accepted.
And please, check whether or not sites you're suggesting are already included in ODP directory.
Editor budalata
Posted at 5:20AM on Oct 15th 2007 by Todor Musev
29. Folks - this is getting extremely frustrating. I realize that this may come off as a bit of a vent, but I have tried complying with every rule to the letter - all to no avail.
I have built a nice site spending many hours learning cold fusion, mysql, html and css. Hundreds of hours. I have applied twice to the categories that my competitors are in, but cannot seem to get accepted. Applications were about a year apart. There is no rough timeline provided so that you can even get a glimpse of your status, or if you have been rejected (and if so - why). My site is better than many of my competitors, so quality is not the issue. I applied to the correct category, so that is not the issue. I have not tried to bribe anyone, so that is not the issue.
You yourselves have made a commitment to the web community, but I do not think that you live up to it. There is an arrogance here that is truly disappointing. Obviously, being listed is important to me, or I would not be writing this. I hope you'll find a way to change the submittal experience to make it more transparent, fair, and to some degree, service oriented. I realize that you are not a service organization, but some level of service would not hurt that much.
Posted at 1:11PM on Oct 16th 2007 by Mark
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Posted at 7:24PM on Oct 16th 2007 by Dave G.
31. Note to Staff: I realize this isnt a status check site, but the question above was not a normal request of that nature, the fact that the wiki showed a dmoz listing where there was none was a bit odd. Checked into it and resolved it.
I'd highly encourage Michael (posted above) to apply to edit the locality category for his city... he had a well written descrip ready and we NEED good locality editors. It's a perfect launching spot for a new editor, the method in Regional is well templated so it isn't hard to learn, and IMO the best place to gain advancement within dmoz.
Regards - Rob
Dmoz editor "robjones"
Posted at 1:29PM on Oct 19th 2007 by robjones
32. How long until Dmoz finally looks beyond these overused and terminally redundant excuses to finally see a corrupt and lazy group of editors? No directory should take more than 4 years to add a well constructed and unique content site that's at the top of the SERP's on all major search engines. All anyone at the ODP does is spout off the usual garbage excuses in an attempt to defend their lack of duty as an editor. What Dmoz really needs is an enema to wash out all the crap that's been driving it down hill over the past 5 years.
Posted at 7:42PM on Oct 23rd 2007 by Scott B.
33. I'd just like to be able to tell if my site was actually submitted. I loathe and detest those stupid little images you have to copy the letters in - I submitted my site twice and both times got a message that the image and entry must match, but as far as I can tell they did. So now what?
Posted at 8:48PM on Oct 23rd 2007 by Cathy Lesnick
34. @Cathy: If you get that message then the site suggestion did not go through. (If it is successful you'll get a "thanks for your suggestion" message instead.) I agree that the message isn't as clear as it could be, and the issue has been reported internally.
Posted at 5:37AM on Oct 24th 2007 by chaos127
35. Dear sir,
I want to be come member.
thank you
Posted at 10:06AM on Oct 24th 2007 by Bajwa TariqMahmood
36. Bajwa TariqMahmood
Posted at 10:06AM on Oct 24th 2007 by Bajwa TariqMahmood
37. hi,
i would add another reason why odp could refuse a site : the dysfunction of the captcha ! i have been trying to submit a site three or four times...unsuccessfully ! i would like to precise that i have no eye troubles, i am not a robot (or at least i ignore it...) and i visited odp on my 30 inches lcd screen (in fact i am surfing with my wii, on Opera 9) i don't think this is a compatibility issue (opera works perfectly on tons of websites...) but honestly : i find the odp captcha unreadable and i am not sure it works correctly.
not sure that's the right place to complain about that, but i couldn't find any support form.
Anyway odp is still a great directory, but i would really like to post my sites with my wii !
See you.
Druide.
Posted at 6:01PM on Oct 24th 2007 by druide24
38. There is no doubt in my mind that DMOZ is completely corrupt. I have submitted various sites over the years to appropriate categories - all within submission guidelines and none have ever been accepted.
Yet I continue to see my direct competitors maintain listings (many times more than 1) and have to wonder how they stay in while I stay out.
A few years ago one of my sites being declined even became hotly debated at webmasterworld for awhile. Every member who looked at the site (dozens pm'd me for the url) agreed that the site should have been included. The only 2 dissenters were self proclaimed editors and their high and mighty posts on the subject defending the DMOZ decision to keep the site out resonated with bad attitude and egotistical extremism.
Just for fun I recently submitted a .gov site that wasn't listed in the directory. Just to see what your 'editors' would do with it and - guess what? Still not there.
I have applied to become an editor twice - each time meeting the guidelines and both times my application was denied for no reason. So please don't suggest I become an editor to enact change from within.
At best DMOZ has become an exclusive club that works hard to keep insiders in and outsiders out. At worst it has become a den of internet iniquity to rival any organized crime syndicate.
If you, as Managing Editor, really believe that your editors are honest, hardworking volunteers making a sacrifice for the internet community then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
If you ever decide to remake the DMOZ into what it once was, the first step is admitting you have a problem and the 2nd step would be integrating total transparency, and an honest appeals process into the system.
Your posts defending DMOZ's honor are laughable. The fact that you post them tells me that you know there are problems. However, your defenses reek of ignorance bordering on complicity.
If you continue to run DMOZ without any changes in policy, then one can only believe that your are the Kingpin in charge of the corruption.
Posted at 8:14PM on Oct 24th 2007 by mb
39. PS: Wasn't there an DMOZ editorship for sale on ebay a while ago for 5K?
Guess whoever bought it just really wanted to do some good and had a compelling need to volunteer his time as a good 'netizen.
Posted at 8:20PM on Oct 24th 2007 by mb
40. I was looking at an editors profile the other day, he had his affilitions listed, and one of the sites he is affiliated with has over 600 listings - this is for a site that republishes content in the public domain for adsense clicks.
If a site with one page of public domain content really needs to be listed in a category, why not at least list a page that does not make money from adsense?
I am an editor myself and I ask from time to time about quality sites that are not allowed in and about situations like the one above and I am always told that no changes will be made.
I can plainly see that corruption exists, and like someone mentioned above, the first step to removing it is admitting that it exists.
Come on DMOZ! It's not too late, but it will be soon, webmasters are turning away one by one, and at an increasing rate. If you lose the webmasters, you lose everything.
Posted at 9:18PM on Oct 24th 2007 by marc